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2014 - Packages, Nucs & Queens! ! *



April 18, 2014

I Have Been Told There Will be Extra

Packages Of Honeybees on the Last Load

In May 2014


The 3rd load of packages

is due in soon


Persons that picked this coming

load as a 1st choice we hope

will get their

choice date!

I will not for sure know how

it all stacks up tell I pick up what

has come for this 3rd load.

This spring is not like any

spring to date from my

well over a decade of selling

packages and nucs! 

I am told every load there will not be any extra's

Most of the time there are extra's due to

how it all works out as nothing is for sure tell

the load moves North and ones see who showed up and

who didn't show up for their order one time.

#14 days now tell we start getting

beekeepers that drive here for 

 their scheduled pick up

for Honeybees in Packages

our #3rd load spring 2014!


I was told today the CA deal will

not come through tell next spring. 


 My CA contact will help me for 2015 


 Buckeye Bell Queens

I started this month 


  #10 - nucs was our start

for spring 2014! 


The #10 Buckeye Bell Queens

I have not yet looked 

at too soon and risky yet

to take a look at this

Special Queen in action!!

Our weather has been too unstable!

I have so far set up another 19 nucs too.

The weather is the problem to date not

enough warm days yet!!!!

This Queen is:


Good Brood Builder!

Breed Specifically to Be Gentle!

Northern Winter Hardy!

Queens Marked and Numbered!

Details Way Down

from here!!!

Our plan for 2014

 Run Entire Yards With A Specific Queens Type


 *****Color Code Hives on hive parts*****

Italian Queen  -  Buckeye Bell  -  Blue

Russian  Queen   -   Red

 Standard Italian   -   Green 

The 1st load of Honeybees for 2014 is closed!


The 2nd load of Honeybees for 2014 is closed! 


The 3rd load of Honeybees for 2014 is closed!


The 4th load of Honeybees for 2014 is closed!


 The 5th load of Honeybees is still open!


We often have extra packages and nucs

but then you might not get what you want!

Due to so few packages this season the extra

packages might be few!!!

This season do not count on many extra's!

I will be very shocked if

their are extra bees 

like past years in the spring!!!!


In 2013, 5,000 new beekeepers started

just in Ohio so think what this season will

bring!  In one year 5 to 7 more clubs in just

OH were started so this spring the need will

be off the charts!!!!

We just finish the winter of all winters

super cold and that killed nearly 75 %

of all colonies so you can see the situation

we are facing this spring!!!

If you have not ordered bees soon you might

not get bees this spring. 

Worse yet if you do not order soon

  you will be staring in late in May.

A swarm in May is just like:

A Stack of Hay 

 A swarm in June is like:

A Silver Spoon 

 So May is not really late!


If any of you start later on in the spring

you must feed, feed, feed and more feed!!!

A hive will only grow with lots of help!!!!

Do yourself a favor and call A.S.A.P!

Don't forget to read about the

Parsons' Gold Solution

Herbal Jelly and Concentrate! 


Been getting in requests for bees

since July 2013 for spring 2014

Don't let the cold weather make

you think no one is ordering!

We are getting in orders nearly

7 days a week now.  When each load

is filled your order will be later & later!


Early starts have more bees 

and more honey down the road!

When we are all sold out this is when

the cry will go out all over the


Nuc Prices Below Keep Going Down!!!!!


The Grower that we get our bees from 

have been in this business for years!!!!


They run right at 7,000 to 11,000 colonies 


Don't be fooled by where honeybees come

from as in this place or that place is better!

Right now just slightly over half of all my hives

are in from GA and they were power house hives

this past season making loads of honey!!!!

The honey haul as you are about to read

below was from 2013 spring packages and nucs!!!!!

It is more what you do with your

hives and the queens then where they come from.

Call us if you want to know more!!!

I produced more honey then I know

what to do with and will likely not finish

extracting my 2013 crop of honey any time soon!

 This past season we had a lot of honey

so it was keep on hauling it in tell done.


I have never taken off honey

like this ever in the cold but due to the level of honey

produced 2013 season this will just have to do!

After the above story we took off 600 more lbs. then

the next day another amount close to 400 lbs.


Right now March 2014 we are seeing 50 to 60 degrees!

 Left over honey will be fed back to the live hives.

We have several live hives in our largest apiary!!!




  The growers in GA have raised

there prices for bees!



 Prices can change

without notice



Our new 2014 prices below! 


# 3 lb. package with an Italian Queen - $123.75 ea.

# 3 lb. package with a Russian Queen - $133.75 ea.

# 4 lb. package with an Italian Queen - $143.75 ea.

#4 lb. package with a Russian Queen - $153.75 ea.

Special order for the Buckeye Bell Queen to be in OH nucs

This new Buckeye Bell Queen in a
# 4 Frame nuc is $210.00 each.

Depending on the weather here in the Forest, OH area

We will try to have some ready by the end of April

2014 as a start for this season!

Don't hold your breath that we will make the mark!

We have not had what I would call a normal

spring weather pattern.


Call for details!!!


# 4 Frame GA Nuc - Italian or Russian Queen $200.00 ea.

This Nuc above can be shipped!

GA Nucs usually start coming the 3rd week in April.

GA nucs were sold out last week too!!!

OH nucs are pick-up only and we are shooting for

pick-up last days in April 2014 or 1st Weekend in May 2014

Everything depends of weather heat!!! 

Call for availability of numbers of OH Nucs!!!! 

Queen prices so far! 


  Single GA Queen in cage - Italian      -     $33.75 ea.

  Single GA Queen in cage - Russian    -      $37.75 ea.

  Single Buckeye Bell Queens in cage - Italian  - $38.75 ea.

Due to weather in the South where this queen is being

breed the Buckeye Bell might start being higher in

numbers later this spring like end of May.


(Postal prices have gone up) 


  S/H postal rates below!


A 3 lb. GA packages - $42.00

A 4 lb. GA packages - $44.00

4 frame GA Nuc - $52.00


Queen orders right at

#5 - #6 

queens per box.

Express mailing fee only- $24.00 each set.


Drive here and save!!!! 


 Dates for 2014

Package Bees.

 Nucs and Queens!

These dates are when

we will just start the

process for beekeepers

to come here for


We schedule each pick-up

per beekeeper.


 Most persons lately order

in time to be getting their order

before it gets really hot!



The US Postal service as of

last year were the only persons

that would ship honeybees.


Honeybees in Packages or Nucs

go Priority ground mail only!


Dates below is when we will start

setting up times for beekeepers to

come for bee orders

in 2014.


Orders going by mail will go

out on or just after the dates below!



April 1, 2014

April 15, 2014

April 29, 2014

May 13, 2014

May 27, 2014

Persons coming here for

bees are scheduled some later

on a Wednesday but most

start on Thursday and



Nucs in from GA usually

start coming in late April


We each year get about 150 to 175  -  4 frame Nucs


It is much better if you want your

bees shipped to get them ordered

for early dates in the spring.


Many beekeepers last season drove

hundreds of miles one

way so they were able to

control the temperature better!


 All our queen orders now go Express

and they are doing way better in the



Persons that drive here for

their bees haul them in

a cool vehicle with the air conditioner

going all the time!


 When persons call us for GA bees

they are told related to the payment

of an order that we pay for each persons

order way before they get it by mail or

when they come here by an appointment.


If for any reason you get bees somewhere

else or catch a swarm after you paid us for

bees and you want to cancel that order

depending on the time you call us to

cancel we might have to keep

some or all of your money.


We do not get a deal paying

for your bees.  It is super

expensive today to deal with

honeybees for all parties.


 Once Packages, Nucs or Queens

have been received by the customer

our responsibility for

the most part is over!


We have no control what is done

with bee related items once out of our hands!


We take super care of

all bees and queens when

they are in our hands!!!


We get them to the mail

within a few

hours from us getting



We feed them in our care

and have air moving in

the area where they are kept

within a few minutes upon arriving!


A fan or two are going 24 hours around

the clock so air in their area is cooling

them all the times. 

Honeybees are always hot when

they are in a cluster.

This is the reason why honeybees

are only provided from

 March to end of May


Packaged bees come with

a feeder can and nucs have

honey in the combs but all

this does not replace them

being able to get out and fly

at the customers place very soon! 


Another problem that we see

each year is prolonged

delay in persons

coming for their order.


Persons just do not

understand that honeybees

have a set number of days

  cooped up in a cage before

   they begin to die.  


Persons are all excited

about getting their bees home

and hived but when the day comes

for them to come for their order

this is when they put it

off longer and longer.


Then when they do come

several days later they

are shocked if they see

dead bees on the floor

of the package or nuc box


In a perfect world there are

still some bees dead in a package

or nuc and that is to be expected.


Bees that are put in packages or nuc

are at all age levels.  Honeybees are dieing

all the time at a rapid rate due to their

short life span.


If something is wrong with

the bees when you get them

at the P.O. you need to

take this up with the P.O.

right then before you remove

the item(s) from the P.O.



When bees are shipped

if there is an inch or more

of dead bees at the bottom

  of a package or nuc

and the rest are still alive do not

get excited about that situation!


Packages or nuc in the mail suffer

greatly due to high heat in mail

trucks!  This is the reason why

many persons pick driving here over 

having their honeybees mailed.  


Remember when you do get

to the Post Office

and see your order,

you have the proof of the

problem not us!


We are not responsible for

Packages, Nucs or Queens

once out of our hands. 


We get

them to the P.O.

or to the buyer and then

we have done our job!


You the beekeeper needs to find

training and education about honeybees

on your own!  You need to learn

the steps and proceedures related to

queens and bees by yourself.

This was the very reason why

I decided to do DVD's to help

ones get more training before

the bees get to you.


We try our best for the little time

we have you on the phone or

you are here getting equipment or bees

but when you leave with the products

you have to gain the next steps

related to the learning of what

to do in the days and weeks to come.


Our Educational Honeybee related

DVD's now we have # 6 done

they can help greatly!

The 6th one was completed

January 2, 2014.

We try to answer lots of questions but still

we are only together a short period of time.


All bees and queens are

insured and you have

the proof if something seems

to be off.


Again do not leave the P.O. with

a bad situation. Tell the postal persons 

and get the proper paper work

  work started for getting 

  part of your money back

when you are at the Post Office.


I will tell you that we hive

all packages and nuc for persons

that fail to show for their orders.


In every case ones that are

low in numbers of bees all make it with

our tender care from hiving them



If no one picks up the phone

Leave a message with 

a number or two

stated slowly twice!!!!! 



# 4's have about 5,000 more young workers then #3's

 so with a # 4 get an extra queen in a cage split it &

get another hive for less

Spring 2014 plans are to make a DVD

Showing in detail how to split a

Packages of Honeybees to make

two hives.



Order a large order & save

All this below might change


  on December 2, 2013!


# 10  # 25 packages get  $2.00 off

 # 26  # 50 packages get  $4.00 off

   #51  #100 packages get  $6.00 off

   #101   #200 packages get $8.00 off

201  +  packages get $9.00 off


 Our large supply of queens

are usually in the spring. 



 This below is more of a spring

process not for summer.


 Many persons are ordering

the entire process done for them.

They want the equipment everthing ready

so all they have to do is come and pick up the

completed hive with the bees and queen inside

and all the equipment needed to work

their honeybees.


When I am done with the

GA package & nuc business

I try to catch up on my

nuc preparation.


 A Nuc 

  Is in most cases drawn combs

eggs, larva, sealed brood,

honey added or other sweetner

plus a mated queen

with many extra workers added.


My nucs have the queens

in with the bees.


Persons getting nucs are often moving them

only 100 to 200 miles and all in one day.


GA nucs that are trucked long distances

  are at a stand still in egg laying.

Those nucs have a caged queen

and that means no egg laying for

  a weeks which can amount to

a loss of production of 2,400 eggs per day.

However,  if the queen were free to

move around when being hauled

the bees would likely kill her in rapid



 A Nuc

Is a small hive that with

care will in most cases make you

honey the first season if started

early enough for the nectar production

in each specific area of the country.

All nectar production requires

the right nectar producing flowers,

the right heat and moisture and your

care when dealing with each hive,



Nucs come in 4 sizes

    # 2 - Frame an observation hive!

  # 3 - Frame needs time to grow!

  # 4 - Frame these will grow fast!

                 # 5 - Frame this size will grow super fast!


We provided Ohio Nucs 2013


Was a good season.


We have provided hives in

past years tell middle of November.

Often persons think since I know a lot

about honeybees they can call at any time

and get a nuc or hive.   The problem with that

thought is if the call comes in too late in the

spring or summer and supers 

are filling with honey and 

are too high or too heavy

we usually can't swing that request!


















**# 3 frame nucs are best for spring

as they are too small for late summer and fall


 Any nuc or hive with a marked queen

add an additional $6.00 -  2012 price.   

I usually place my nucs

 in a special cardboard nuc box

made for honeybees.



If the customer wants their order

in a pre-assembled pine nuc box

add $50.00 to the order.  

   A # 4 frame nuc buyer might

want an additional frame added

so there are no frames tossing around

 in a #5 frame nuc box.

   An aditional new frame add $3.15

 for your order.

  These nucs are assembled and glued

with waterproof glue

 and I like to paint them too if  time permits.

  All orders for special wooden boxes

need to be placed way ahead of time.


Freshly painted nuc boxes will cost an 

additional fee if not already painted.


A wooden nuc box is

nearly 12 separate parts before

  they are assembled.



Another way that persons order

honeybees is to have the nuc already

inside a deep box, the addional 4 or 5

frame added, a telescoping lid, 

  inner cover, and

screened the bottom board

attached with hive staples. 

I will screen the entrance so

when the buyer

arrives all they have

to do is load it and go


It is best to place honeybees

no matter how contained in

the back of a pick-up truck.


Some place them

into any sort of vehicle too.


No matter how they are

transported much care is

needed with honeybees

where an individual is

also near!


With this set up above the buyer

has the cost of the nuc and all the

additional parts of the hive

so this is less work once the

bees are at your home place

or apiary.


When you move

a nuc the lid

should be attached

in some way so the

bees inside can get some

air to vent the box.

I will screen the entrance

and this will help a lot

unless the nuc has to move

in extreme heat and for

many hours of travel.


 It is very important that anyone

transporting honeybees run the

air conditioner and keep the

hive away from direct sun light too.


Do not leave your vehicle with

a hive inside closed up.  If you

need to eat it is best to go to a

drive up and keep the air conditioner going.


It is very important to make your

trip here and home in one day

if you can't then bring another

diver so your vehicle is constantly

in motion!    



 A #4 or #5 frame nuc can often be used upon

 receiving it for several days when you

 haul them to your area of the country.

Ask me and I will tell you the size of each

nuc as in days that this or that once can be

left inside before installing them into a

larger area.


  I have produced

nucs/larger hives

for buyers

 here in OH for

14 consective seasons.


 New beekeepers want honeybees at all times

 of the year as there is no normal time

 to start keeping honeybees.

I have placed many hives as late

 as middle of November of any

 given season with success! 

  If you get a hive late you will want to talk

 with me on how to treat this

 colony in late fall and winter time.

There are no guarntees for success

as beekeeping is a super interesting experience

and you learn as you go.

   No two queens are the same and

the queen makes the hive. 

 I still learn something each year


I am starting my 47th year in 2013.


Your colony is your responsiblity

 and when you leave with your order

 the responsibiltiy of the life

of the queen and the bees

in a nuc rests with you.



The moment you as the new beekeeper

gets your hive home and starts learning anything

 can happen to that queen.


How you remove and replace each frame

 with honeybees on each is up to you

 and so this venture is personal and ever changing.


It is first come first served and the

 wait might be longer then

you want due

 to when I hear from

you.   What hives are

 ready for each new


or returning beekeeper.


I get in callers daily some are just

 looking wanting to know the best

 deal and calling to shop around. 


The problem often rests

 with the beekeepers that

 waits too long to settle

 with this or that provider.


At this time of the year 

up to some time

 in late November/December 

providers and breeders

 start getting together with prices

for the next year.  

Orders just

 keep on mounting.  Don't wait

too long to pick a provider.

Some of us have nearly

unlimited supplies

 of honeybees at different

 times of the year

 and some don't have that

 many units to market.


I stress to all that call me or are

reading this right now that

there is a time to smell

  the roses so to speak

 and there is a time to settle

 on this or that provider.


My advice for you is to find a provider

 that knows honeybees

and has provided bees

 for buyers for many years.


Ones that just put out

his or her sign that spring

you might want to steer clear of.

   You want a company that has done this

 for some time

or a company that was

 doing honeybees for

years but not

just for buyers. 


I was a beekeeper

with my own hives

 for 30 years before I said I

 was in business for others.















We market a treatment - will help honeybees deal with problems in the hive


Parsons' Gold Solution 


A safe non toxic treatment!


Do not let anyone tell you one can't make honey in the first season.


My web site talks about this treatment and particulars for it to be mailed. 
















Hiving packages of bees.


Hiving packages of bees.

(See FAQ to decide whether you

want a package of bees or a nuc.)


* We take great care with honeybee related to nucs, full sized hives, bee related equipment and other produces sold here.

Nucs in cardboard boxes made for honeybees in our care are put in a building out of the sun as soon as possible with fans to provide ventilation when made up for buyers.   This is done for buyers that are coming soon.  

We are not responsible for any bees or bee items after they leave our care!

Note:   Our nucs weather permitted have a mated queen inside unless other arrangements are set in place.  Nucs that we make up in Forest, OH are usually on combs.

Some orders come in where the buyer wants say a 3 frame, 4 frame or 5 frame nuc.  In this case if the buyer gets this size such as a 3 frame or a 4 frame in a 5 frame container it is best to add the extra frame(s) to keep the nuc frames from swaying from side to side killing bees and maybe the queen.  The buyer would then want to purchase an extra frame and that should be set up with us during the first contact so I can have it in the nuc box when the buyer comes for the nuc. 

Usually I have the nuc already prepared due to Ohio weather changing from morning to p.m. quickly.  It is not advisable to set up a nuc in the rain of chilly weather and often when the buyer comes the weather in the spring here has changed to rain or super cool in a few hours.   This is the reason why I put the completed nuc in a building when finished usually with a fan running if too warm. 

If at all possible I talk with the buyer before a purchase about the order that a beekeeper wants.  Some beekeepers when they come ask for a nuc not ordered before their specific date.  In a case like this above one has to take what I have as getting what they might want at the last minute is just not possible usually.  I have to tell the buyer this is all that I have ready without first hand notice like several days or weeks before.   

Due to cool spring weather here in OH we are slowed often due to how each day progresses.  In summer and fall each year I try to have many # 4 or # 5 frame nucs generated from our supplies.  Nucs from here in OH produced in the middle of the summer will not be ready till later in August or September.    New beekeepers do not know to place orders early it takes many seasons for me to get some beekeepers to think early.  With knowledge one can over winter a colony started in August, September and even October.  A new beekeeper contacted me one year in and wanted then two full sized hives two deeps and the other standard equipment to run a 2 deeps colony, I told the beekeeper exactly what to do and both hives made it through the winter well!  That set up in 2013 would cost a persons well over $300.00 now.

I might or might not have nucs or full sized hives ready past June for different reasons so this is why I say to beekeepers you must contact us early so we can better prepare for what each feels is their need.   Plan to pay in full at time of order as we don't consider your order firm unless we have that order paid for in advance!    

Please call or Email us if you want to order - Honeybee nucs or full size hives from today onward!  Today is February 27, 2013 and callers are making contact daily now.   You will want to arrange for some slots soon before load dates are full for early spring 2013.  What happenes each year when crunch time arrives orders flood in at the last minute.  Nearly half of all beekeeepers wanting honeybees fail to act in time and can't get the easy way to start into honeybees with a packages and a queen.